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The following is an email from Paul Barby, sent on 2-4, in response to discussion of a letter by C. Smith in the Feb 1 issue of the Gayly Oklahoman
(Posted 2-7-02)


Regarding the posts concerning the Log Cabin Republicans in Oklahoma:

In my view the biggest problem we (GLBT's) are facing with Republicans, Southern Baptists, bigoted Democrats -- individuals and groups across the broad spectrum of our society -- is that they do not know us.  They only know what they have been taught about us by those who don't know us or who want to use us as scapegoats to promote their agenda -- Falwell/Robinson/Dobson use us to raise money for their TV diatribes; the Gingrich clones, to promote the fear factor in politics to control the masses primarily because their support base, the Southern Baptists and other fundamentalists control their agenda.

Therefore, it is very important that we make every effort for those who demean us and use us to know us as responsible human beings, participating daily along side them in their lives and always have been, but not visible and out of the closet, so to speak.  It is vital that those GLBT persons who are able to tolerate the Republican agenda be visible in the Republican Party.  NOW, that does not mean that any GLBT person should capitulate blindly to the Republican agenda but it is important that someone be at that "table" as I have written earlier, to make certain that as the political food is passed around the table, there is someone speaking up at that table for GLBT's.

As a footnote, I specifically named Southern Baptists because of an encounter just yesterday during the Soulforce vigil at Village Baptist Church.  I had a long conversation, civil in tone but frightening in content, with a bright woman from that congregation.  They are convinced that there is a reason in our past, some teacher, some deviant who seduced us or taught us, something that has made us gay contrary to the unbendable law in God's word. She is determined to defend the infallible  scriptures -- being gay is not natural and we must recognize the primacy of God's word. Tough to listen to, insulting to my intelligence, nasty in its spiritual violence -- but a chance to be known by one of the "enemy."

What caused our conversation to continue was hearing for the first time in her life, I surmise, that we are responsible human beings, no more driven by sex than she is in her comfortable heterosexual fortress she uses to bomb us with spiritual violence.  Because of our conversation, she wants to continue to talk, although I will readily admit her agenda is to prove to me that I am wrong and can change.  She will be bringing "research" proving there is a gay agenda next month to discuss with me.  It is tough to talk with her -- there is so much that is just plain vicious in what she believes and says -- I escaped that religious prison with the Southern Baptists back in the late 1950's so this was not pleasant for me.  BUT we both, she and I, came to a respect for each other and can continue to reveal who we are to each other, hopefully to come to an awareness that I feel she lacks and she is convinced that I am brainwashed with.  She heard some challenges to her way of thinking she had never heard before.  Will the outcome be positive?  I do not know but I am willing to keep trying because I judge her to be a strong voice in that congregation.

Now, back to GLBT's participating in the Republican Party as Log Cabin members in Oklahoma.  Of course they should be there and we should encourage them to be there.  How will Republicans ever recognize the distortions about us in their thinking if they don't know any of us except the bold brassiness the media and TV evangelists label us with, picking only parts of our culture as typical of all of us while they ignore those same elements in their "straight" world.  When she suggested, no accused us, of being nothing but loud, shocking, promiscuous sex-driven individuals like those sound/video bites from past gay pride events she uses to recognize us -- she has never know anything different about us, I suggested that she look at her world, too, not missing the boldness and rashness evidenced in sports bars, at OU tailgate parties, strip joints, porn shops.  She admitted that, yes, there is much of that in the straight world "that is sinful." I believe I made the point with her that GLBT's and straights are not different in our lifestyles -- both groups have the same diversity of lifestyles.  She did admit that there were many "straight" activities she did not approve of but couldn't resist that God's word condemns those types of activities, too.  My response was that she was certainly welcome to her beliefs for herself but that God's word did not give her any authority to judge others -- it was a merry-go-round of semantics and feints with bad facts and impressions.  BUT she heard directly from me some things that are counter to what she has been stuffed with.  I was reminded how ingrained this need to be so right with scriptures is with someone like her -- she is not unique -- there are many like her -- I know.  I was one of them during my teens and early twenties. My point is engagement and dialogue are vital.  The Republicans need that from courageous GLBT's who don't go in to destroy or undermine but to bring our equal humanness to their table.

By the way, we need you regardless of your religious convictions, or opposition to the same, to join us the first Sunday in March, which is the 3rd, for our next vigil.  DO NOT expect to nor even try to engage in discussions such as I just described.  Our vigil is silent and when someone approaches us, we pass that person on to someone who can stay centered in the discussion, not that I did such a great job, but we cannot feed their distrust of us with the anger that we really feel inside about their distortions and the spiritual violence they target us with.  They must get to know us as rational and responsible citizens who have always been out there with them daily even if most of us are still closeted.  They just do not know us for who we really are.

They have to know us.  The Republicans have to know us.  Now, the debate with GLBT Republicans about non-GLBT issues is another matter.  It boggles my mind that anyone in their right mind, GLBT or otherwise, can buy into the Republican economic/political agenda.  It is destructive to the very core of our democratic society, giving the leverage to those who have the bucks and the channels of communication.  But that is not this debate about being present in the Republican party.  Go for it C. Smith and I will debate your reasons for being a Republican in another forum.

Paul Barby
Woodward, OK
CD6

 

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