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The following is
an email from Joe Quigley
(Posted 7-6-03)
(7-4-03)
When the Supreme Court came out with its ruling on
the Texas sodomy case, the "religious"
right, conservative politicians and supreme court
justices who while decrying the decision as based
more on politics than law did so based more on
politics than law bewailed what they call relative
morality among other catchy and scary unsubstantial
phrases.
They try to condemn the ruling based on
their knowledge of history and the lack of this
knowledge on the part of liberals, while actually
ignoring history (there was no prohibiton in the
christian church against same sex love until well
into the 14 century which would indicate a longer
standing acceptance of it than the 600 years of
inconsistent condemnation).
In light of the recent visit of Billy
Graham to Oklahoma City, the witness offered by
Hizzonner the mayor and the subsequent calls for a
Christian nation, a return to (what) religion in
America and the judging of others as less than godly
or American for not buyng it, I thought it was time
to bring a statement of Billy Graham to the attention
of those who might have missed it.
In the Daily Oklahoman there is an
Ask Dr. Billy Graham column that appears in that
section of the paper that has the T.V. schedule, Ann
Landers and Miss Manners in which the Reverend
answers questions sent in by the faithful who might
need a little clarification on some fuzzy areas of
theology. A few years back ( not many since I have
not been in this burgh that long and I kept this Q
and A) a woman wrote concerned that in Leviticus it
stated that because someone committed a particular
sin ( something straight people would be more
inclined to do than Gays or Lesbians) they were not
to be allowed into the sanctuary. The questioner was
concerned because a relative she loved had committed
that sin and would probably return to Jesus if she
could get him to church, but this Levitical
admonition would not allow her to bring him, and his
potential salvation would be severely curtailed.
Billy said that that admonition was
from that part of the bible that did not apply to
Christians.
WHOA!
Billy actually stated that Christians could pick and
choose what sections they held to?
Who makes that choice? Since this
levitical proscription would obviously apply to a
larger majority than the often misapplied "Do
not lie with a man as with a women" targets (and
it appears very close to it), it seems to me that the
majority can dismiss parts of the bible that could
apply to them while holding a chosen minority to ones
that do not. Not only is this a little on the side of
situational application and relative moralism, but it
also ignores St. Paul's warning in Galatians that you
cannot pick and choose what biblical laws you
consider worth following. You either follow them all,
or you follow none. Even he was referring to what is
now considered the old testament ( that part of the
bible quoted more often by so called christians than
the new testament that one would assume christians
would have a greater interest in quoting).
And here's Rev. Graham saying some parts
of the Bible can be ignored. Most of those who
condemn Gays and Lesbians, the Supreme Court
decision,most liberals and people with open minds
hold the Bible as inerrant and therefore something
that must be followed to the letter even if that
letter is used only to raise money rather than save
souls. Yet here is their hero saying in print that
parts of the Old Testament are irrelevant. It appears
to me that those who are most vocal in their
condemnations and who are accusing everyone they do
not agree with of being relative in laws and morals
are blind to their own fault.
Of course they may be so busy
condemning others, they forgot the Rev. Graham said
that.
Who is actually being relative
here?
Joe
Previous
postings from Joe Quigley:
- Update
on Mayor at NW Classen (Posted 5-14-03)
- Mayor
to exploit school crisis (Posted 5-7-03)
- NW
Classen plaque vandalized again (Posted 5-4-03)
- Joe
Quigley - NW Classen update (Posted 4-11-03)
- NW
Classen: plaque returned to bulletin board,
Davis offers no explanation (Posted 4-3-03)
- NW
Classen: No police report (Posted 4-2-03)
- Anti-GLBT
violence at NW Classen (Posted 3-30-03)
- NW
Classen bulletin board vandalized again (Posted
3-26-03)
- Black
slavery a lifestyle? (Posted 2-21-03)
- NW
Classen: It continues (Posted 2-2-03)
- Brotherhood
Week and Black History Month at NW Classen (Posted
1-22-03)
- Joe
Quigley on 'inclusivity' at NW Classen (Posted
12-6-02)
- Joe
Quigley - The next step (Posted 11-26-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Call to action update (Posted 11-20-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Call to action (Posted 11-19-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Memo to Principal Davis (Posted 11-15-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Poster is down (Posted 10-27-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Content-based censorship (Posted 10-24-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Davis unethical? (the prequel) (Posted
10-24-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Davis unethical? (Posted 10-23-02)
- Joe
Quigley - NW Classen Update: Oct 12, 2002 (Posted
10-12-02)
- Joe
Quigley - A meeting with the principal (Posted
10-5-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Davis bans Gay 9/11 memorial (Posted
9-10-02)
- Joe
Quigley - NW Classen Update - Sept 6, 2002 (Posted
9-6-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Davis says NO (Posted 9-4-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Gay & Lesbian History Month (Posted
9-3-02)
- Joe
Quigley - NW Classen Update: Aug 23, 2002 (Posted
8-23-02)
- Joe
Quigley - NW Classen Update: Aug 21, 2002 (Posted
8-21-02)
- Joe
Quigley - NW Classen Update: Aug 19, 2002 (Posted
8-19-02)
- Joe
Quigley - NW Classen Update: Aug 15, 2002 (Posted
8-16-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Indiscretions at NW Classen (Posted
8-14-02)
- Joe
Quigley - unbelievable: NWKlassen redux (Posted
8-13-02)
- Joe
Quigley - Back to NW Classen (Posted 8-13-02)
- Christian
group seeks to provide 'mentors' to OKC
schools (Posted 5-11-02)
- 'Gay
and Lesbian' bulletin board vandalized at NW
Classen (Posted 5-11-02)
- Quigley
- Response from the Principal (Posted 4-30-02)
- Quigley
- A written verbal reprimand (Posted 4-27-02)
- Quigley
- update on The Bulletin Board (Posted 4-22-02)
- Donated
bulletin board gets 'special' visitors at NW
Classen (Posted 3-29-02)
- Bulletin
board, gift of GLBT Community, installed at
NW Classen (Posted 3-7-02)
- GLBT
Community presents bulletin board to NW
Classen High School (Posted 3-5-02)
- Progress
at NW Classen High School (Posted 2-13-02)
- Joe
Quigley writes a letter to the Daily
Oklahoman (Posted 2-12-02)
- Principal
Davis does the right thing (Posted 1-29-02)
- Teacher
alleges anti-GLBT vandalism done by NW
Classen employee (Posted 1-25-02)
- Lambda
Legal gets it wrong (Posted 1-13-02)
- January
is Gay and Lesbian Recruitment Month (Posted
1-08-02)
- OKC
schools censor GLBT websites (Posted 12-22-01)
- Joe
Quigley & the Nativity banner (Posted 12-19-01)
- Our
votes are important but we're not? (Posted 11-13-01)
- NW
Classen High School censors GLBT Heroes of
Sept 11 (Posted 10-23-01)
- Northwest
Classen update - Fri, Oct 5 (Posted 10-7-01)
- NW
Classen Update: being the latest installment
in the ongoing (unfortunately) chronicle of
deliberate harassment by Principal Weldon
Davis in his campaign to get openly-Gay
teacher Joe Quigley fired (Posted 10-4-01)
- Davis
to Quigley: "No Gay and Lesbian History
Month at NW Classen" (Posted
9-27-01)
- Latest
developements at NW Classen (Posted 9-18-01)
- NW
Classen principal intensifies harassment of
Quigley (Posted 9-13-01)
- NW
Classen Update - Tues, Aug 21 (Posted 8-22-01)
- NW
Classen Update - Mon, Aug 20 (Posted 8-21-01)
- Joe
Quigley's news from NW Classen: April 26,
2001(Posted 4-26-01)
- Northwest
Classen High School administration shows anti-Gay
animus (Posted 2-1-01)
- Joe
Quigley, teacher - Part Five (Posted 12-8-00)
- Joe
Quigley, teacher - Part Four (Posted 12-7-00)
- Joe
Quigley, teacher - Part Three (Posted 12-6-00)
- Joe
Quigley, teacher - Part Two (Posted 12-5-00)
- Joe
Quigley, teacher - Part One (Posted 12-4-00)
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